I haven't really gone fishing!
I'm going to away from until the first week of July - heading to Italy for some R&R!
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Monday, June 08, 2009
Thursday, June 04, 2009
Lesson 183: The pronoun, chi / Il pronome, chi
The pronoun, chi, has several functions in Italian grammar. It typically corresponds to the English who or to whom but it can have other meanings.
Let's look at how it is used when it functions as an interrogative pronoun (pronome interrogativo):
Now let's look at how it is used when it functions as an relative pronoun (pronome relativo):
Dottore Giambattista, da cui sono andato ieri, ha studiato a Milano con mio padre.
Doctor Giambattista, who I went to yesterday, studied in Milan with my father.
You cannot use chi in this example for one very important reason - da cui refers back to Dottore Giambattista. We know who we are speaking about, Dr. Giambbatista (the antecedent).
Let's look at the example below:
Annalisa: Vai da un medico specifico?
Annalisa: Are you going to a particular doctor?
Marco: Vado da chi riesce a curare la mia malattia.
Marco: I am going to whomever is able to cure my illness.
We use da chi instead of cui because there's no antecedent - we don't know which doctor Marco will see because Marco hasn't said (perhaps even he doesn't know or even care).
Let's look at how it is used when it functions as an interrogative pronoun (pronome interrogativo):
- Chi is commonly found in questions, and, as such, it is an interrogative pronoun. It can function as the subject or as an indirect object or object of the preposition (complement indiretto):
Chi vuole andare al cinema?
Who wants to go to the movies?
Chi ha comprato quella macchina blu?
Who bought that blue car?
Con chi vedi il film?
With whom are you seeing the film?
Da chi vai domani sera?
To whose house are you going tomorrow?
Readers always ask - how do you know if it is the subject or the indirect object/object of the preposition. First, when chi functions as an indirect object/object of the preposition, it will have a preposition before it (di, da, con, etc.). Second, the form of the verb can also be something other than the third person singular (see the last two examples above). Otherwise, when chi is the subject, the verb is always in the third person singular (see the first two examples above). - Chi di + tonic pronoun noi, voi or loro can have the meaning Which of in questions:
Chi di noi...? | Which of us...
Chi di voi...?| Which of you...
Chi di loro...? | Which of them...
Chi di noi va alla festa di Daniela?
Which of us is going to Daniela's party?
It's possible that you could have phrases such as Chi di me (Which of me...) if you're being existential or philosophical (you might hear it in songs or see it in poetry), but it's generally used in the plural (noi, voi, loro). - Di chi can mean whose when forming questions:
Di chi è questo?
Whose is this?
Di chi sono questi?
Whose are these?
Di chi sono queste chiavi?
Whose keys are these? - Chi is heard often over the telephone, as in the following expressions:
Chi parla?
Who's calling?
Con chi sto parlando?
With whom am I speaking?
Now let's look at how it is used when it functions as an relative pronoun (pronome relativo):
- Chi can also be used as a relative pronoun (pronome relativo) as either the subject or an indirect object/object of the preposition (complemento indiretto). It has the following meanings:
the person who, the one who
the man/woman who/whom
the people/those who/whom
someone who/somebody who
anyone who (in negative phrases) - Chi can also be preceded by prepositions in the following combinations:
a chi
Lascerò la mia eredità a chi si comporterà meglio nei miei riguardi.
I will leave my inheritance to those who behave better towards me.
con chi
I miei figli giocano con chi c'è al parco.
My children play with who is there at the park.
da chi
Il governo prende da chi può pagare.
The government takes from whoever is able to pay.
di chi
Quel giornalaccio parla di chi vive scadalosamente.
That rag talks about whoever lives scandalously.
in chi
Ho fiducia in chi dice la verità.
I trust those who tell the truth.
per chi
Ho votato per chi è sembrato il più onesto.
I voted for whoever seemed the most honest.
su chi
Gennaro è sfortunattissimo alle corse. Punta sempre su chi perde.
Gennaro is unlucky at the track. He bets always on those who lose.
tra/fra chi
Sceglierò a chi dare i miei regali solamente tra chi mi porterà in vacanza con lui
I will choose who to give my gifts only among those who will bring me on vacation with them. - Remember that a relative pronoun joins a relative clause to the main clause. Chi does not require an antecedent (unlike che and cui) as it functions as both the relative pronoun and antecedent at the same time.
Another important aspect of chi is the fact that since it lacks an antecedent it usually describes an unknown person. In English, we might say something like I have to find someone who can write in French. We don't know who exactly we will find.
Here are some examples in Italian:
Devo trovare chi sa scrivere in francese.
I have to find someone who knows how to write in French.
Non posso ricordarmi chi è arrivato con Emilio.
I can't remember who arrived with Emilio.
Chi spende sempre non risparmia mai.
Those who always spend never save.
Chi dice cazzate sembrerà stupido.
He (or she) who talks nonsense will seem stupid.
Those who talk nonsense will seem stupid.
Non mi piace chi mente.
I don't like those who lie. - Chi can mean: whoever, anyone
Assuma chi vuole. Lei è il capo.
Hire anyone/whoever you want. You are the boss. - Chi di + noi/voi/loro can also be used as a relative pronoun to mean Those of us/you/them who :
Chi di voi vuole sapere di più della situazione politica può consultare al mio sito web.
Those of you who want to know more about the political situation can visit my web site. - Chi(...chi) can also mean: some people...others
Chi can also be used correlatively, that is two pronouns that refer to two distinct groups of the same thing, as in English we might say "some" or "some people" and "others":
C'è chi viaggia, chi sta a casa.
Some people travel, others stay home.
Dottore Giambattista, da cui sono andato ieri, ha studiato a Milano con mio padre.
Doctor Giambattista, who I went to yesterday, studied in Milan with my father.
You cannot use chi in this example for one very important reason - da cui refers back to Dottore Giambattista. We know who we are speaking about, Dr. Giambbatista (the antecedent).
Let's look at the example below:
Annalisa: Vai da un medico specifico?
Annalisa: Are you going to a particular doctor?
Marco: Vado da chi riesce a curare la mia malattia.
Marco: I am going to whomever is able to cure my illness.
We use da chi instead of cui because there's no antecedent - we don't know which doctor Marco will see because Marco hasn't said (perhaps even he doesn't know or even care).
Monday, June 01, 2009
Lesson 182: Use of anche / L'uso di anche
A user recently asked me to delve into the complexities of the conjunction, anche. There are some aspects of Italian that, once understood and even used, will set you off from the pack, so to speak, and give your Italian a more native flair. The use of anche is one of them -- see below for some rules and guidelines involving this trouble word:
- Generally, anche does not start a sentence in Italian, especially when it modifies a personal form of the verb - use instead inoltre or oppure. Or, alternatively, you can place anche later in the sentence:
Vai anche al cinema.
Inoltre vai al cinema.
Oppure vai al cinema.
You too are going to the cinema. - Anche precedes impersonal forms of the verb (such as infinitives, gerunds and participles) and as such could be the start of a sentence (see the first example with the infinitive as the subject of the sentence):
Anche leggere nel buio non è sano.
Also reading in the dark is not healthy.
Marco sta anche correndo per mettersi in forma.
Marco is also running to get into shape.
Giovanni è un tipo molto studioso. Riesce a studiare anche mangiando
Giovanni is a very studious type. He is able to study also eating. - As stated in rule #1, anche is generally not to begin a sentence. However, this rule does not apply when anche modifies the subject. If the subject is a pronoun (io, tu, noi, etc. -- nota bene: with io, anche contracts: anch'io) then the subject pronoun must be used in the phrase (as you know, subject pronouns are typically omitted):
Anche tu vieni da me?
You also are coming to my house?
This sentence means: You, too, along with the others are coming to my house?
Note the difference between the phrase above and this one:
Vieni anche da me?
You are also coming to my house?
This sentence means: You are also coming to my house along with doing other things (such as shopping, making a cake, babysitting, etc.) - Anche can be used in to add reinforcement, especially when there is a link between things things or between two distinct actions:
Hai letto Il giorno della civetta ed anche La scomparsa di Marjorana?
Did you read 'The Day of the Owl' and also 'The disappearance of Marjoana'?
Stefano è andato al teatre ed anche uscito ieri sera.
Stefano went to the theathre and also went out yesterday evening. - Anche can be used on its own to affirm a response to a question that was already asked without repeating Sì:
Marco: Cerchi il mio libro? | Are you looking for my book?
Anna: Sì.
Marco: E la mia rivista? | And my magazine?
Anna: Anche. | Yes, that too or And your magazine. - The placement of anche can change the meaning of a sentence, and this is especially true in compound tenses. As a general rule, anche precedes the element which it modifies.
When using anche, make sure that you place it where you want it to make the most sense. Let's look at these examples:- Ho anche letto il giornale.
This sentence means: Along with doing other things (washing the car, walking the dog, shopping) I also found time to read the paper.
In this example, anche modifies the verb, that is past participle, letto. - Ho letto anche il giornale.
This sentence means: Along with reading other things (such as a new book I bought at the bookstore, my child's report card, an email) I also read the paper.
In this example, anche modifies the noun, il giornale.
- Ho anche letto il giornale.
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Grammar Index
- Lesson 183: The pronoun, chi / Il pronome, chi
- Lesson 182: Use of anche / L'uso di anche
- Lesson 181: Idioms / Modi di dire
- Lesson 180: Figurative sense / Il senso figurato
- Lesson 179: Che, Che Cosa, and Cosa -- They all mean 'what'?
- Lesson 178: Choosing the right translation -- alarm
- Lesson 177: Choosing the right translation -- shot
- Lesson 176: Choosing the right translation -- window
- Lesson 175: Understanding Verbs -- mettere
- Lesson 174: Hypothetical sentence / il periodo ipotetico
- Lesson 173: Functions of the pronoun, che
- Lesson 172: Relative pronoun, cui / Pronome relativo, cui
- Lesson 171: Understanding Verbs -- fregarsene
- Lesson 170: When Accents Make All The Difference
- Lesson 169: Understand Verbs -- "Shopping Verbs"
- Lesson 168: Verbs for Daily Activities / Verbi per azioni quotidiane
- Lesson 167: Idiomatic Expressions with the verb, avere / Espressioni idiomatiche con il verbo, avere
- Lesson 166: Human Body and Idiomatic Expressions
- Lesson 165: Understanding verbs -- cominciare
- Lesson 164: Preposition tra/fra
- Lesson 163: Understanding Pronominal Verbs : accorgersene
- Lesson 162: Adjectives/nouns with the preposition, in
- Lesson 161: Redundant verbs
- Lesson 160: Use of the definite article with people
- Lesson 159: The adverb, mica
- Lesson 158: Using definite article with geography
- Lesson 157: Placement of Adjectives in Italian
- Lesson 156: Understanding verbs -- essere and stare
- Lesson 155: Indefinite Article / Articolo indeterminativo
- Lesson 154: Writing Formal Letters in Italian
- Lesson 153: Understanding verbs -- servire (used impersonally)
- Lesson 152: Condizionale presente / present conditional
- Lesson 151: Special Idiomatic Verbs
- Lesson 150: Irregular comparatives and superlatives
- Lesson 149: Adjectives/nouns + preposition, in
- Lesson 148: Which play? Choosing the right translation
- Lesson 147: Verb Complements in Italian
- Lesson 146: Indirect Object in Italian (revisited)
- Lesson 145: List of verbs not requiring preposition before infinitive
- Lesson 144: Imperative / Imperativo
- Lesson 143: Understanding verbs -- mi tocca, ti tocca, etc.
- Lesson 142: Understanding verbs -- farcela
- Lesson 141: Understanding verbs -- bastare
- Lesson 140: More On Prepositions (IV) - da, a, and con
- Lesson 139: Other uses of the imperfect / Altri usi dell'imperfetto
- Lesson 138: More on Prepositions (III) - Prepositions of Place
- Lesson 137: Negative prefix -in / Il prefisso negativo -in
- Lesson 136: Non sapere v. non potere
- Lesson 135: Absolute superlative / Superlativo assoluto
- Lesson 134: Bello, buono, bravo and bene
- Lesson 133: More on Prepositions (II) - Prepositions of time
- Lesson 132: More on Prepositions (I)
- Lesson 131: Numerical expressions
- Lesson 130: Conjunctions that require the subjunctive
- Lesson 129: Simple Future / Il futuro semplice
- Lesson 128: Relative Superlative / Superlativo relativo
- Lesson 127: Picking the Right Tenses With The Subjunctive
- Lesson 126: Comparisons in Italian / I comparativi in italiano
- Lesson 125: Modals in the conditional
- Lesson 124: Trapassato prossimo
- Lesson 123: Use of santo (saint) in Italian
- Lesson 122: To capitalize or not to capitalize? / Maiuscola in italiano
- Lesson 121: Why does piacere take essere in compound tenses?
- Lesson 120: Uses of the pronoun, ci
- Lesson 119: Which short? Choosing the right translation
- Lesson 118: Animals and animal sounds in Italian
- Lesson 117: Special reflexive verbs
- Lesson 116: Pronouns in Italian / I pronomi in italiano
- Lesson 115: Understanding verbs -- dovere
- Lesson 114: Understanding verbs -- potere
- Lesson 113: Modals in the past tenses
- Lesson 112: Understanding verbs: giocare v. suonare
- Lesson 111: Understanding verbs -- venire
- Lesson 110: Understanding Transitive, Intransitive, Reflexive and Reciprocal Verbs
- Lesson 109: Prepositional phrases / Locuzioni prepositive
- Lesson 108: Preposizioni improprie / improper prepositions
- Lesson 107: Formal and informal 'you' in Italian
- Lesson 106: Passato prossimo, an overview
- Lesson 105: Ordinal numbers / i numeri ordinali
- Lesson 104: The date in Italian
- Lesson 103: Understanding Verbs: conoscere and sapere (2)
- Lesson 102: Understanding verbs: voler dire
- Lesson 101: Understanding verbs: volerci
- Lesson 100: Saying what you do as your profession in Italian
- Lesson 99: Per + infinitve
- Lesson 98: Place of reflexive pronouns with the modals in compound tenses
- Lesson 97: Special use of the preposition, da
- Lesson 96: Italy's Regions
- Lesson 95: Understanding reflexive verbs: cambiare v. cambiarsi
- Lesson 94: Which right - Choosing the right translation in Italian
- Lesson 93: Fill in the blanks: imperfect vs. passato prossimo/remoto
- Lesson 92: Understanding verbs -- fermare, fermarsi and smettere (di)
- Lesson 91: Verbs with indirect objects
- Lesson 90: Gender for nouns when it is not always apparent
- Lesson 89: Present indicative in Italian / Presente indicativo in italiano
- Lesson 88: Understanding verbs: piacere (revisited)
- Lesson 87: Passato prossimo/passato remoto or l'imperfetto?
- Lesson 86: More on Adverbs
- Lesson 85: Translating the preposition, about, from English to Italian
- Lesson 84: Homonyms in Italian
- Lesson 83: Introduction to the pronoun, ne
- Lesson 82: Italian nouns of Greek origin
- Lesson 81: Double Object Pronouns / I pronomi doppi
- Lesson 80: Direct and Indirect Object pronouns / I pronomi diretti ed indiretti
- Lesson 79: Direct and indirect object pronouns -- an overview
- Lesson 78: More Prepositions
- Lesson 77: Present perfect continuous
- Lesson 76: Articulated prepositions / Preposizioni articolate (Prepositional Articles)
- Lesson 75: Present progressive / Il Presente Progressivo
- Lesson 74: Essere: conjugations, notes and other tidbits
- Lesson 73: Common Reflexive Verbs
- Lesson 72: Passato Remoto -- List of Irregular Verbs
- Lesson 71: Adjectives and prepositions
- Lesson 70: More on the definite article
- Lesson 69: Irregular verb, passato remoto -- sapere
- Lesson 68: Agreement of the past participle in the passato prossimo
- Lesson 67: Passato prossimo with avere
- Lesson 66: Understanding Verbs: parlare and raccontare
- Lesson 65: Reflexive verbs / Verbi riflessivi
- Lesson 64: Understanding Verbs: dolere
- Lesson 63: Interrogatives (gli interrogativi)
- Lesson 62: Irregular verbs in the present tense: volere -- to want (to)
- Lesson 61: Tenses in Italian and their English equivalients
- Lesson 60: Preposition: a
- Lesson 59: Preposition: su
- Lesson 58: Learning Verbs I -- first ten most important verbs
- Lesson 57: Passato remoto
- Lesson 56: Centuries in Italian / I secoli in italiano
- Lesson 55: Passive voice / Il Passivo
- Lesson 54: Writing ordinal numbers in Italian
- Lesson 53: Punctuation in Italian
- Lesson 52: Alphabet in Italian
- Lesson 51: Verbs with the preposition, a
- Lesson 50: Subject pronouns
- Lesson 49: Prima che and prima di
- Lesson 48: Dopo and dopo che
- Lesson 47: Avere conjugated in all tenses and moods
- Lesson 46: Fare + infinitive
- Lesson 45: Understanding verbs: prendere and portare
- Lesson 44: Telling time in Italian
- Lesson 43: Negatives in Italian / I negativi in italiano
- Lesson 42: Stressed (or disjunctive) pronouns / i pronimi tonici
- Lesson 41: Imperfect tense (l'imperfetto)
- Lesson 40: Preposition: di
- Lesson 39: Uses of che
- Lesson 38: Antecedents and pronouns -- the scoop!
- Lesson 37: Passato prossimo with essere
- Lesson 36: Partitives
- Lesson 35: Nouns ending in -io and forming their plural
- Lesson 34: Understanding verbs -- fare
- Lesson 33: Irregular verbs in the present tense: dare -- to give
- Lesson 32: Verbs like piacere
- Lesson 31: Understanding Verbs -- piacere
- Lesson 30: Preposition: per
- Lesson 29: Understanding verbs -- stare (with accompanying expressions)
- Lesson 28: Numbers 100 - 1,000,000,000 / I numeri 100 - 1,000,000,000
- Lesson 27: Present tense + da + time expression (present continuous), Past tense + per + time expression
- Lesson 26: Reciprocal constructions
- Lesson 25: Calendar
- Lesson 24: Present tense in Italian: -ire verbs
- Lesson 23: Nouns with double plurals
- Lesson 22: Days of the Week
- Lesson 21: Sapere and conoscere with past tenses
- Lesson 20: Irregular verbs in the present tense: sapere -- to know
- Lesson 19: Sapere and conoscere
- Lesson 18: Irregular past participles
- Lesson 17: Present tense in Italian: -ere verbs
- Lesson 16: Verbs and expressions that require the subjunctive
- Lesson 15: Understanding Verbs: dire -- to say, to tell
- Lesson 14: Invariable nouns and adjectives
- Lesson 13: Understanding verbs: andare -- to go
- Lesson 12: Possessives / I possessivi
- Lesson 11: Understanding verbs -- bere
- Lesson 10: Italian Basics
- Lesson 9: Numbers 1 - 10 / I numeri 1 - 10
- Lesson 8: Present tense in Italian: -are verbs
- Lesson 7: Where the stress falls in Italian
- Lesson 6: Essere and avere in the present tense
- Lesson 5: Adverbs
- Lesson 4: Definite Article / Articolo determinativo
- Lesson 3: Time expressions and the preposition di
- Lesson 2: Understanding verbs -- mancare
- Lesson 1: Gender and Number





